Wednesday, January 13, 2021

Q3 recorder-player

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And this is the latest of the products tested on behalf of the radio friend. I took from him  USD5 about 9  months ago  after my  Creative Zen for unknown  reasons its battery was completely drained and couldn’t  find a way to revitalize it. I didn’t notice how it happened but the only I suppose I carelessly or a thing very close to it pressed the power button. 

 

As noticed in another posting my original  thought was to  use a specialized   line-in recorder to record from external sources  mainly ripping  tapes  and vinyl records as part of  my job to rip  friends and other people 's   own audio material and by a way to use it for shortwave   logs and sometimes  internet streams. Zen v was proper for this job but its battery   drained by mistake causing the player to behave as ‘dead’.

The replacement Q3 is a small Fm and mp3 player and recorder, with ability to record from it’s in built microphone. It is smaller than a pack of cigarettes of just 10 x 6 x 1.7 cm with many buttons and sockets 

On the  top it uses  a  3 way  switch  for off / mp3 /radio 



On the front panel  it has a  LED  display used as file  time counter  Fm freq and shows the battery condition and blinking recording LED  . At the right of display there are two buttons to change between   music and voice folder which is really the folder of all recordings. 


 
Under the display is the rec-pause /stop/ and repeat buttons
a numeral keyboard is shown on the bottom with a repeat and enter buttons. Used for the freq and direct file change and delete (operation I never used)
FF - next / play pause / REW - previous buttons

 

On the bottom there is a socket for the micro SD memory.  I used a 8 GB  an old auxiliary  mem 4 years ago that has not been used for very long time  !The older times I used it  for the defunct unused Sansa mp3 player as aux memory  to play  different kinds of music, mainly HM .


On the right part there are the sockets: earphone, line in, USB and the  ANALOG VOLUME CONTROL (i.e. a potentiometer)



I always use my Koss in-ear-phones.... which have very good audio. Not as good as the Sony???  But still very good to listen and test it.

And on the   rear part there is a socket for a Nokia BL5B battery. Very nice idea to use a very famous company's battery products. My mobile uses a  BL4C  battery and my Degen 1126  uses a  BL5C battery and both  fit perfectly to the socket of 1126. The 5B is shorter by ca 2.5mm. As my Nokia  6300 had a problem with its charger cable base (from inside the mobile's socket )i use  the Degen  radio to charge also the two  spare  batteries .

Anon  Co could not send  the player with  batteries or extra customs  charges  could be added.
IN order not to use the DE1123 all the time as charger  just in case it gets damaged , i bought a wall type BL battery charger via eBay. Its cost is only  $2.5  bought  on late 14 quite before  we did the idea for Q3.    
As anon couldn’t  provide batteries  we searched again on ebay to find suitable battery. We found  a clone type  with ca 2-2.5  USD Anna from  Anon was very helpful to search for us  for such a model.Kudos to her. I not sure who was the seller  but this  clone  battery  turned the wall charger too  hot  many times so that i could not  even touch the battery!    The batteries  required ca 2.5  to be burned ie  fully charged . Until mid August  a very hot  day,  when the next day the charger got short circuited and switched the house's general switch off  due to a short-circuit. 
The other Nokia  clone batteries cause no problem to the wall  charger
We  then tried  to find a new  original BL5B Nokia battery from ebay to replace the low quality battery  . At  5 USD it was a good deal. In the local market  it was  not easily available, possibly that most mobiles using it are extinct or possibly due to customs control, caused mid Jul  15 , banning  imports to Greece . Someone advised us its cost is nearly10-12  euros. 
Notice  that Paypal cannot    for the time  being does not accept Greek credit cards! 

Playing the mp3 player:
It is used  with the on off switch  in the middle position. Once a SD card  is used , it can immediately start playing  from the first song  stored. It  cannot stop playing  unless  you press the pause  button on the right set of buttons  . Stop button  will repeat the same song from the start.
MP3  WMA and WAV   files are  playable. Have not tested  if all  bit rates  are playable so far  , but all my files are  of 32-48 for WMA  and 96 for MP3 and can be played well  .   These  bit rates  are quite sufficient to my ears . A partial listing has been transferred  from my Muvi 18 .
REW and FF  buttons  can  run the player  to 2x  . Pressing Next/ Previous  have reaction  of ca 0.2 secs of fast song change.Fair for songs  but not so good for very long  recordings.

Also  good for listening to your recordings in the voice folder . However there is a mini problem: once you shut off the player you have to once again search the file.This is in contrast to the mp3 folder 

Audio  via the speaker  is rather  poor similar to the audio you can listen  with most mini computer speakers  . In contrast to it , using the earphones  produces excellent audio . I compared it with my Muvi 18 which also has  very good sound on the same  song  with the same headphones (Sennheiser HD497) that produced +exactly+ the  same sound quality.  

 

Using the microphone:
This is something  i cant locate .It is used in  the mp3 player   by pressing the REC button . a operation used many times with good to very good  audio quality as later  heard by  earphones from the recording . Very similar to the  old Sony voice recorder i  had  many years ago (about 10?)

 

Using the FM  radio
Audio  is rather 'bassy' and lacks  stereo spatiality. If we determine zero as  the middle point  and 9 as the extreme right and left points  (ie the heads point )   the sounds are heard to maximum  +/- 5-6 points  .
ATS can be used by pressing the play button at the right  panel. it stores all stations in the band . As radio  it uses its own  inner  antenna  if I can say this way  and cannot be enhanced with the external earphone  cables. Its sensitivity  is medium and can scan  to most stronger stations    Around 78 have been found in my area . MY fav  of 106.5 extreme  is heard very poor to poor which is a bit less  than   most Tecsun radios   tested in the home, Selectivity  is rather low (meaning a wide filter  )
106.3 FM  can  many times  be heard in that  frequency instead of 106.5 (a difference of 15 db units  in PL380)

 I prefer to  tune directly via the keypad for faster results . I have used it  to record some interesting  interviews from FM 100  a Greek language program  of my Facebook friend Mary Leria , specialized  in children psychology, children ,   and related festivities  in the city.  

 

In-line  recording :
This is  made  by connecting the  provided stereo jumper cable (a double 3.9 male-plug cable of ca 50 cm) and can be used in Mp3 and  FM modes surpassing  them. Audio quality is the same  as the original , at least for my ears .
Pressing stop  will revert  to the mode and will play the last recording if it is on Mp3 mode  Once again  will resume  the line in listening .

 This is  the  bitrate of the recorded line-in files


This is the bitrate of the recording microphone files: 

Some necessary technicalities:
-All recordings  are made in MP3  on 128  bit rate 32 kHz . You cannot  change this bit rate which is rather bad in case you need higher sampling.  wish it had this ability. But even  this bit rate offers very good  recording fidelity. 
-All recorded files are stored in the same directory called  REC. with a  serial number and a leter  suffix. It is easy   to understand that the suffix F means FM , M  is microphone , and L is line in ,The serial  number is the same as  the number shown in the LED display
You can also store  unrelated files or recs with names changed . This can shift the serial number shown in the LED  with the number of the  unrelated  files stored
-If your recordings are longer than 1 hour, the  player will split to one hour recordings. The last days  I used the player  to record from my tablet from several online stations from my fav country  for a minimum of  4 hours. I 've seen this splitting once it exceeds the  59.00 mins. For safety reasons  i preferred to remove the  battery  and connect it directly to the grid via the power adaptor. 
-The least and most insignificant : If a  song or  recording is too  high , lowering the volume is necessary.This  happened also in normalized files.  Very low audio 
VC levels  can shift the sound  towards one earphone. 

-About 8  hours  are the  maximum to be used with the clone batteries . Have not tested with the original  Nokia battery. 

-Although  i think in the start of using  this player  , music button  could change  the  music directories after an unknown reason the  button does not do anything.
The mp3 playback goes in series  the way  the files were stored  from the computer starting from the root directory.The card I use  was full of  hard rock songs though i kept only 5 directories from that  list i.e. about  500 MB or less . 
My Muvi collection of  125  mp3/wma  songs are put  in the root directory are played in the start even if  they were put later than the hard rock songs .

Verdict : 5/5
In this lengthy article I  analyzed in full the Q3 multi operation player  recorder. Considering   its  relatively low price of $25 (I paid the half to him ) its operation and  fidelity  is exceptional , possibly very close to the  more professional models available  on the market . no flaws  except the  low FM stereo spatiality.

The  cheapest  recorder  I found in the local  market  is priced at  99  Eu two years ago before i  selected to buy the Creative Zen V as line in  recorder. This is  the  Zoom H1 V2 with the same price today  end of year. It is a dual mike and  line in recorder suitable for stereo field recording with many bit rate selections starting from  ca 32 to as much 320 kb for MP3    , Google  for more)  It is  still cheap though quite excessively exceeds  my today's budget . The only  it lacks  is radio.


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